I think evolution means Nurture becomes Nature, isn’t that right?
It’s not “You have a Nature – plus there’s some nurture,” – this is more of the Human Nature in new words I’m always on about, creationism in new words. You do not simply “have,” a Nature, in the real world of evolution. We make our Natures in the real world of evolution, always, every day.
That’s new. I didn’t think the Nature and Nurture meme was going to be so easily busted, so wrong, so much more of the same – but it is. That’s what it means with the current cast of characters, they who have ears, etc. They can be generous and add a little Nurture , as long as the Nature is still in there, because they aren’t losing an inch of ground. And so, zero change.
Big day, busting that one! I need to mark it on my calendar.
Evolution says no static Nature and so the scientific community responds with, OK, you can have a little Nurture too? That was not the question, was it? We said, “no Natures, things change.” Natures plus, is “yes Natures,” again, it’s just a bloody bait and switch.
It gives up the whole principle.
“Natures,” preclude evolution, it’s not even a compromise. Nature and Nurture doesn’t mean anything, does it, it’s like no air “and” no water, the second part is meaningless – it’s total capitulation. Majority type communication, yes, but no, and no we’re not changing anything.
I think they thought that one was unassailable. I mean, they do, “Natures,” are a feature of the normal mind, the same way Kant showed space and time to be. Evolution isn’t displacing it as it ought to if life and knowledge were a free meritocracy of accuracy. There is more to it, there is neurotype, and evolution just doesn’t seem to be part of the majority sort of human.
I’m not name-calling, I’m not happy about it, and I won’t be happy simply being able to say it and feel superior about it. It’s just a fact of the world, one we really ought to consider. There are several neurotypes, but “omniscient,” isn’t one of them, we all have more-abilities and less-abilities, superpowers and built in deficiencies. Normal folks don’t mind talking about the minority neurotype’s deficiencies right in front of us, and frankly, ours aren’t as important as theirs, just by numbers.
Hey – the Kant analogy – so I suppose since time and space are properties of “the mind,” I suppose it is possible to speculate about a neurotype that doesn’t have those too? Ahem. Never mind. This is not the place to imagine a real scientific basis for all manner of paranormal stuff, eye on the prize, Lad. Ha. Moving on.
If I thought this was the end of the conversation, normal people just can’t get it, I wouldn’t bother, I would be slack jawed, fixed on the television, which happens often enough, right now. If I was stuck on “Natures,” that might be the end of it, but I am not, I am making a real effort to apply evolution to my thinking, and so something must be making it so, there is a selective pressure to create the attitude we see as believing in Human Nature, it is a thing humans have evolved into, and so it is a thing we could evolve away from, and that thing, that pressure is punishment.
The creation of deterrents is like some kind of rebellion against evolution, the plan of deterrents is that we make people and things better, by intentionally adding stress and fear to the environment everywhere they turn. “Deterrent,” is literally another word for environmental danger. A world of deterrents is a world of predators and a life based in terror, in the fight or flight response, in our amygdalae.
Morally, developmentally, every way, this is evolution in reverse, to simpler forms, to a life, “rough in tooth and claw.”
We are actively evolving ourselves right now. It doesn’t stop just because you don’t grok it, and I don’t know if you noticed, we are not evolving ourselves to the stars and the utopia, it is to what we see, to history as it is.
So based on the facts of the world, it is as I say, we mostly do not apply evolution consciously, consciously we say “Human nature,” every ten minutes, even when we are alone. Less consciously, we are forever creating hazards where there are none, driving us to conflict in the supposed effort to drive us away from it. It means everything.
It means everything, whether we see life as evolution or deterrents and punishments, if you believe in the latter, you make the environment worse, and the reality of evolution changes you to match. If you believed in evolution, you would see rewards instead, and that good things make good people. I know, it doesn’t look like a choice, same as time and space.
The difference is our early experience. The difference is whether Mom and Dad are hazards or safety. The difference is spanking. I think most people would get evolution if they weren’t spanked, I think that deficiency gets reinforced, and cemented in place through epigenetics, by spanking. Evolution is not to be found in your amygdala. I have always thought that we could start to change things if we changed that one thing.
There is resistance, don’t get me started.
Jeff
Jan. 9th., 2024
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