False Legacies, Autism and Origin Stories

My extrapolated, speculative theory of neurodiversity ought to turn the existing human origin story on its head.

It’s difficult, maybe impossible to express it, but I cannot stop trying.

First, the existing view is new, since Wallace and Darwin, kind of thing – and in the sense that the existing origin story isn’t that, but the same as since we started keeping any sort of history – that’s new too, in this conversation, in deep time where our species is hundreds of thousands or millions of years old.

The current view, looking back, is new, in terms of our species’ existence. Stretch it to the neolithic revolution, still new, relatively.

You would have to convince me that this present view of a progressive trajectory existed before then, during the tens of thousands of years when we were all sort of Indigenous the world over and not building big permanent cities, and I can’t imagine how you would. Perhaps it existed intermittently, during the empire parts of the cycle the Davids identified in The Dawn of Everything, but it didn’t rule always and forever. I don’t suppose we know how far into the past that pattern extends either.

But that’s step one, everything we think about the deep past is new, coming from modern minds.

New thought:

in creation stories, we arrive fully formed, human-hairless, and this suggests what I’m getting at: that the current origin stories tell of the creation of the new human, fully formed, suggesting that the story is recent, not an ape man story, that this mythical creation takes place in literal modern times, while upright, hairless, story telling people already inhabit the Earth.

For me, it is as easy to imagine these stories as describing the arrival of a type of person, the modern sort, rather than all people. Saying it is “the people,” like all the people – this is one thing this modern sort continues to do ever since also.

This idea, that creation stories take place during literal times, is borne out by the fact that every human group has its own, and generally does not credit their creator with making all the other peoples. They have their own, so this must be the case, that these stories all somehow acknowledge a creation event while acknowledging the existence of other peoples at the same time?

Ah, like Adam and Eve’s kids finding wives from somewhere, right?

I’m sorry, it’s a stretch.

But if anyone does build an Autistic origin story, it isn’t going to be compatible with the existing framework, a good version of this attempt is going to be a leap too.

But for me, the Allistic origin story, with the patriarchy and the rough Nature, has always been too much of a stretch, a leap this Autistic mind has never been able to make.

But whether their origin stories acknowledge creation as a neurotype event or not, the point is, the origin stories (and so the law and the philosophy and the science) are new and Allistic, our origin stories are only the Allistics’ origin stories.

This is a sliver, a thin slice of the logic from the other side here, but it’s long enough to pretend to draw a conclusion, at least, and then we can argue about that.

It ought to turn the human story on its head because it makes everything they claim as the way of the world forever not that at all, and it makes the mad human lifestyle not at all sustainable over three million years but rather as having destroyed the world in no time, since the neolithic revolution.

It ought to make clear what the problems are and stop burying them in an invented eternity.

Allistic “forever,” is NO TIME AT ALL, and if we were allowed to see it , we would see a new thing that isn’t working, at ALL.

I am about one beer from saying that spanking hails back to the neolithic revolution, and that seems radical as fuck, but farming changed lifestyles massively, didn’t it, and . . . and it sort of has to be that way, everything dates to then.

If not then, even earlier.

OK, not yet. There isn’t much about spanking in the Dawn of Everything, and a great sense that it wasn’t a thing on Turtle Island.

Twelve thousand years old in the Euro’s “Old world,” but hardly thought of here, is a little difficult, but . . . maybe? There are big differences. Speculation, to be sure.

That’s a new one, I think there’s an idea that spanking and childhood generally are far newer than that, even as recent as the enlightenment, this is the reachiest reach I will have made yet, how could it possibly be?

Ah, The Dawn of Everything again – what if it wasn’t a thing for the Turtle Islanders and what if the enlightenment they started meant that for the first time anyone in Europe bothered to NAME children and childrearing, and abuse?

Not proof, obviously.

But maybe?

I could be like a TV producer sort about it, like Ancient Aliens, refer you to “many legends,” that suggest something happened suddenly around twelve thousand years ago, of course there was a great leap in global warming and floods, inundation of any possible coastal cities, and there was the agricultural revolution and people have theorized many things to explain something sudden, from creation stories, to alien visitors to the far more reasonable and common weird magic that happened, “due to increased population/city size,” with no agreed upon mechanism for that.

I have seen talk of another sort of mind in or before ancient times, the “bicameral mind,” and this is closer to saying “a neurotype event,” like I’m trying to make happen.

It would seem self evident that if the common sort of mind changes, that the world would change subsequently, so perhaps, rather than thinking some Autistic savant created the agricultural revolution, it makes more sense to think that the population of Allistics passed some tipping point then, and people gave up their freedoms for something else – security from one another, they’ve always said this was it forever, maybe more so this recently – and started building fences and whatnot.

I suppose I’m talking about the same event the Chalice and the Blade was about too. Of course some of these things are more recent than that twelve thousand years. Was a long time ago, reading that one, I don’t remember the timeline.

Jeff

Feb. 28th., 2024

Role Swapping

My idea is equal and opposite, in every way.

I think Allism is a modernish, growing problem, like they thought/think about us.

I think Allism can’t really be cured, but a treatment, assiduously applied as early as possible in life may mitigate the worst kind of onset and allow them to live something closer to what we Autists might call a normal life – just like they thought/think about us.

The treatment is equal and opposite too: NO spanking, NO “aversives.” Gentleness and reason applied scrupulously through early life may head off onset – of course, research needs to be done – same as they say about us, equal and opposite.

Equal and opposite, they are sure everyone needs the epigenetic push of spanking and discipline, and they think we must need it harder to make us employable – while I am sure the world needs them NOT to keep pushing themselves that way.

Difference is, they can add punitive abuse when they like, a certain amount is “normal,” to them, and also they can bend and break their own laws like Lovaas did – but we can’t simply lock them up and make them stop, applying the equal and opposite fix of not spanking, I don’t know how we create the will to do it.

Placing neurodiversity under NT medicine is clearly an error of structure, a neurodiverse population requires neurodiverse oversight. An error or something like a coup, a power grab with no across the board justification.

I think the parable of the five blind men and the elephant is about this, about neurodiversity, and clearly none of the five blind men should have veto power over the rest, obviously identifying the elephant requires them all.

So equal and opposite, in theory, should apply to pathologizing too. The Autist should see their pathologization as not just wrong, but backwards. It should be obvious and understood that they look pathological to us too, equal and opposite. Anything less and we’re self-censoring, giving the field away.

And there’s an irony that paragraph dances around, that I won’t touch, it will only confuse things further.

Jeff

Feb. 28th., 2024

The Everybody Pascal’s Wager

Pascal’s Wager, you know, it’s like risk/reward in golf, the odds get worse as the rewards or the punishment gets greater, how does it go again, “Sure, the odds of the Christian salvation story are not good, but the price, should it be true and you didn’t choose it, is terrible, eternal,” something like that?

It is predicated on the idea that it is highly unlikely that what you believe can make you live forever, but what if? You don’t want to be the only one sitting at home in your urn on the mantle when everyone else is flying around enjoying their lute lessons, do you? Ha – it’s social, conforming stuff about the afterlife.

Well not really, of course.

But people do appear to make the choice, I suppose some need the reward, or fear the punishment more than others?

I would like to adapt that, from Christianity to everyone, exactly like I have adapted their Original Sin for everyone as the Human Nature myth.

Most people take the long shot in a version of Pascal’s Wager.

You know what I’m going to say, if you’ve read one of my rants, you’ve read them all. We take it every time we provide a deterrent, every time we solve our problems with abuse. Most people bet the world that their deterrents are “virtual,” and not really hurting anybody, not really affecting anything, but it’s a landscape of fear. It changes everything.

If you haven’t heard that term, it’s worth a look.

Short and sweet, when Yellowstone Park was all herbivores, the herbage didn’t have a chance, and much smaller life dependent of the sweetest of it was not thriving, not coming back, but the re-introduction of wolves and grizzly bears changed the herbivores’ lifestyle, they weren’t free to be out in the open eating the only the best stuff  and balance was restored. Landscape of Fear. I think it’s an episode of Nature or some such. National Geographic, maybe.

It makes, vast, forever changes to your lifestyle. From diet to habitat to everything. It is the furthest thing from virtual because reality is not virtual and reality doesn’t have buttons that don’t do anything, nothing is virtual. What you lose are the same things the elk lost in Yellowstone: free, open spaces, and the best food, the sun on your hide. The freedom to go where you like. Security for your children.

I don’t really know, or at least it is not my place to talk about what the Christians lose betting on Pascal, but they don’t win the prize that is offered, I don’t take that bet so I don’t see the reward, so I say this, that they do not win the prize for making the gamble. If they live well, I hope they win the prizes we get for that. But I assure you, we win no prizes in the everyone version of the game. OK, stupid prizes, as they say, war is not much of a prize, is it? From yesterday’s blog, about Nature and Nurture being a dodge:

The creation of deterrents is like some kind of rebellion against evolution, the plan of deterrents is that we make people and things better, by intentionally adding stress and fear to the environment everywhere they turn. “Deterrent,” is literally another word for environmental danger. A world of deterrents is a world of predators and a life based in terror, in the fight or flight response, in our amygdalae.

Morally, developmentally, every way, this is evolution in reverse, to simpler forms, to a life, “rough in tooth and claw.”

I suppose under the duress of the grizzlies and the wolves, the elk are never going to have enough leisure time to develop written language and pottery and under the iron rule of ourselves we are never going to have our utopias and reach the stars. It’s not balance when you do it yourself, apparently, the humans living from their amygdalae has not produced balance or the restoration of the environment, oh, gawd, did I have to say that? I’m sorry, I usually err on the side of brevity, I usually try not to waste your time.

Obviously, the fact that humans live in the fear while simultaneously dishing it out is different than it is for the elk and the bison. Like Sapolsky says, there is never a stress free time for us when we know the predator has just eaten or something. But, getting back to simpler matters, how is the deterrent of an actual spanking or an actual prison sentence any more virtual than the deterrent of an actual pack of wolves?

It is not, or the way it can be is a matter of your neurotype, a matter of how you process that information, maybe. Evolution, for good or ill, operates with or without your understanding though, and none of these things are virtual, and so the odds of winning the Punishment Cult’s version of Pascal’s Wager – wait, what is the tease, what is the reward? What is it in lieu of eternal life in this analogy?

If we believe in Human Nature, that we are born flawed and need to be controlled and directed and so we are controlled through the deterrents and then, what?

Civilization?

Don’t tell me it’s supposed to be peace? Because that isn’t working out.

I know, mere survival. Not peace so much as strength and victory.

About that, I’m sorry to tell you, that isn’t working out either.

Also from yesterday’s exploration:

It means everything, whether we see life as evolution or deterrents and punishments, if you believe in the latter, you make the environment worse, and the reality of evolution changes you to match. If you believed in evolution, you would see rewards instead, and that good things make good people.

In theory, you would build good things, make the environment better, easier for people, remove the fear wherever possible – certainly stop creating it all day every day your bloody self – and watch people adapt to be better, kinder, and smarter instead. Or, you know, gamble it all for a shitty life during wartime, why not.

You do you.

Jeff

Jan. 10th., 2024

Nature Plus Nurture is Pseudoscience

I think evolution means Nurture becomes Nature, isn’t that right?

It’s not “You have a Nature – plus there’s some nurture,” – this is more of the Human Nature in new words I’m always on about, creationism in new words. You do  not simply “have,” a Nature, in the real world of evolution. We make our Natures in the real world of evolution, always, every day.

That’s new. I didn’t think the Nature and Nurture meme was going to be so easily busted, so wrong, so much more of the same – but it is. That’s what it means with the current cast of characters, they who have ears, etc. They can be generous and add a little Nurture , as long as the Nature is still in there, because they aren’t losing an inch of ground. And so, zero change.

Big day, busting that one! I need to mark it on my calendar.

Evolution says no static Nature and so the scientific community responds with, OK, you can have a little Nurture too? That was not the question, was it? We said, “no Natures, things change.” Natures plus, is “yes Natures,” again, it’s just a bloody bait and switch.

It gives up the whole principle.

“Natures,” preclude evolution, it’s not even a compromise. Nature and Nurture doesn’t mean anything, does it, it’s like no air “and” no water, the second part is meaningless – it’s total capitulation. Majority type communication, yes, but no, and no we’re not changing anything.

I think they thought that one was unassailable. I mean, they do, “Natures,” are a feature of the normal mind, the same way Kant showed space and time to be. Evolution isn’t displacing it as it ought to if life and knowledge were a free meritocracy of accuracy. There is more to it, there is neurotype, and evolution just doesn’t seem to be part of the majority sort of human.

I’m not name-calling, I’m not happy about it, and I won’t be happy simply being able to say it and feel superior about it. It’s just a fact of the world, one we really ought to consider. There are several neurotypes, but “omniscient,” isn’t one of them, we all have more-abilities and less-abilities, superpowers and built in deficiencies. Normal folks don’t mind talking about the minority neurotype’s deficiencies right in front of us, and frankly, ours aren’t as important as theirs, just by numbers.

Hey – the Kant analogy – so I suppose since time and space are properties of “the mind,” I suppose it is possible to speculate about a neurotype that doesn’t have those too? Ahem. Never mind. This is not the place to imagine a real scientific basis for all manner of paranormal stuff, eye on the prize, Lad. Ha. Moving on.

If I thought this was the end of the conversation, normal people just can’t get it, I wouldn’t bother, I would be slack jawed, fixed on the television, which happens often enough, right now. If I was stuck on “Natures,” that might be the end of it, but I am not, I am making a real effort to apply evolution to my thinking, and so something must be making it so, there is a selective pressure to create the attitude we see as believing in Human Nature, it is a thing humans have evolved into, and so it is a thing we could evolve away from, and that thing, that pressure is punishment.

The creation of deterrents is like some kind of rebellion against evolution, the plan of deterrents is that we make people and things better, by intentionally adding stress and fear to the environment everywhere they turn. “Deterrent,” is literally another word for environmental danger. A world of deterrents is a world of predators and a life based in terror, in the fight or flight response, in our amygdalae.

Morally, developmentally, every way, this is evolution in reverse, to simpler forms, to a life, “rough in tooth and claw.”

We are actively evolving ourselves right now. It doesn’t stop just because you don’t grok it, and I don’t know if you noticed, we are not evolving ourselves to the stars and the utopia, it is to what we see, to history as it is.

So based on the facts of the world, it is as I say, we mostly do not apply evolution consciously, consciously we say “Human nature,” every ten minutes, even when we are alone. Less consciously, we are forever creating hazards where there are none, driving us to conflict in the supposed effort to drive us away from it. It means everything.

It means everything, whether we see life as evolution or deterrents and punishments, if you believe in the latter, you make the environment worse, and the reality of evolution changes you to match. If you believed in evolution, you would see rewards instead, and that good things make good people. I know, it doesn’t look like a choice, same as time and space.

The difference is our early experience. The difference is whether Mom and Dad are hazards or safety. The difference is spanking. I think most people would get evolution if they weren’t spanked, I think that deficiency gets reinforced, and cemented in place through epigenetics, by spanking. Evolution is not to be found in your amygdala. I have always thought that we could start to change things if we changed that one thing.

There is resistance, don’t get me started.

Jeff

Jan. 9th., 2024